Ralph’s Review

August 13, 2008

I’m going to give you car comparison charts

Filed under: Car Comparisons — ralphsreview @ 1:33 pm

 

 

In my last post I made a comparison between a Chevrolet Matiz and a Chevrolet Captiva. Crazy it might have been but I think car comparison charts are the way to go.

 

Because I’ve learnt – after 42 years – they’re probably your best way to understand cars.

 

You can read my charts, accept them, ignore them or say something by commenting.

 

To understand things we use comparisons, contrasts, examples, evidence and explanations. But do we?

 

We carry out these exercises in our thoughts. What usually happens is as the information comes at us from outside ourselves we meet it with preconceived thoughts. So the facts don’t get through and the truth is not known.

 

 I’ve been doing it for 42 years.

 

That is until I attended the Chevrolet Aveo and Epica product launch and we did car comparison charts on paper. You get a much clearer understanding. Then you can do the accepting, ignoring, arguing thing.

 

Imagine presenting a chart to an Audi A6 owner comparing their car with an Epica. Are they going to accept it? Compare a Chevy with a Merc and the Merc owner will ignore it. If we do the same with a BM’ owner an argument will follow.

 

The comparison chart still stands. Another thing I’ve learnt is differences are not important if they’re anything like similar. Differences have to be significant.

 

Take fuel consumption and performance figures; they’re measures useful for comparison. But in real life, in the hands of a real driver, on a real road, they will get varying results.

 

If writing stuff is about what readers should know or more fully understand, then car charts are good. You can’t meet charts half way with your ideas. The facts are the facts. The differences have to be real. There’s no room for copywriters or journalists similes and metaphors.

 

Like Chevy say, ‘Get Real.’

 

Car comparison charts can make a real difference.

 

When you’re presented with stuff you might say, ‘read it,’ or ‘knew that.’ It’s called the benefit of hindsight. At a weaker level it’s no more than slight recognition.

 

If you take my crazy comparison of the Chevrolet Matiz with their Captiva you could say you knew the size difference, and interior space difference. You knew the Captiva was more powerful but less economical. But did you? Could you have explained it in the detail presented in the chart?  Did you know the exact differences and the difference they make?

 

The magnitude of your judgements would have been way out. You had no more than an idea.

 

We act on our ideas. We buy cars based on ideas. Trouble is many ideas are mistaken. Mistakes cost and cars cost a significant amount of money.

 

What makes you tick – costs. So keep it clear with charts.

 

Regards

Ralph

www.chevroletreviewsandprices.co.uk

 

August 10, 2008

Why you should not rank a number of vehicles with similar fuel consumption figures

Filed under: Uncategorized — ralphsreview @ 12:45 pm

 

If you visit the VCA site www.vca.gov.uk you’ll find a data table for new car fuel consumption and emissions. Naturally you’d rank cars by their fuel consumption and emission figures.

 

However if you read how to use the table the VCA say it is not advisable to rank a number of vehicles for which very similar figures are quoted. They don’t say how similar.

 

The reason they give is the figures shown for different models will not necessarily be the same as the figures you actually achieve on the road.

 

They say the figures are for comparison only. But surely when you make comparisons you automatically rank those figures in your mind.

 

Let’s see what they mean.

 

Here are 5 upper-middle size cars with the smallest diesel engine option and a manual gearbox. The mpg is the combined fuel consumption figure. The fuel cost of driving 12,000 miles is based on diesel price of 113p/litre. I’ve left out the new BMW 5-Series 2.0D because it has a combined fuel consumption figure of 55.4 mpg. Seems to me it will prove the most economical and be £1-200 cheaper to run over 12,000 miles.

 

Make

Model

Engine

CO2

Mpg

£ per 12k

Saab

9-5

1910

174

44.1

1398

Chevrolet

Epica

1991

169

46.3

1331

Audi

A6

1968

159

46.3

1331

Mercedes

E-Class

2149

160

46.3

1331

Volvo

S80

1997

151

49.6

1243

 

I think the VCA are saying the Epica, A6 and Mercedes – in the hand of the same driver – won’t necessarily achieve the same figures whether they be higher or lower than their test figures. In the same way the Saab may not be that bad or the new Volvo that better. The other point is do the difference in CO2 emissions have any significance to car buyers other than which price band they’re in for vehicle excise duty. There’s about a 10% difference in the figures. So they might be similar.

 

Here are 5 medium size SUVs, again with the smallest diesel engine option and manual transmission.

 

Make

Model

Engine

CO2

Mpg

£ per 12k

Volvo

XC90

2400

219

34.0

1813

Kia

Sorrento

2497

209

35.8

1722

Land Rover

Freelander

2179

194

37.7

1635

Chevrolet

Captiva LS

1991

195

38.7

1593

Hyundai

Santa Fe

2188

190

39.2

1573

 

You have to watch SUVs because most are not as economical as the above. Here we’ve something like a 20% difference although the figures appear similar. This really does beg the question, what do the VCA mean by similar? Is there any real difference on the road between the Freelander, Captiva and Santa Fe? And will they be better than the Volvo and Sorrento?

 

Here’s a more complex table. These are all small cars – the smallest – city cars.

 

Make

Model

Engine

CO2

Mpg

£ per 12k

VW

Fox

1198

144

46.3

1249

Ford

Ka

1299

141

47.9

1207

Citroen

C2

1124

138

48.7

1187

Fiat

Panda

1108

135

49.6

1166

Proton

Savvy

1149

134

49.6

1166

Renault

Twingo 60

1149

130

51.4

1125

Hyundai

Getz

1086

130

51.4

1125

Chevrolet

Matiz S 5dr

796

119

54.3

1065

Fiat

500

1242

119

55.4

1044

Daihatsu

Sirion

998

118

56.5

1023

Hyundai

i10

  1086

119

56.5

1023

Kia

Picanto

999

117

57.6

1004

Daihatsu

Charade

989

114

58.9

982

Citroen

C1

998

108

61.4

942

Peugeot

107 68bhp

998

108

61.4

942

     Toyota

Aygo

998

109

61.4

942

 

There’s a real difference in the fuel economy. And from the Chevrolet Matiz down you only pay £35 a year for vehicle excise duty. From the Getz up you pay £120. Seems to me in this case ranking is worthwhile – there’s a £300 fuel difference from top to bottom on top of the tax difference.

 

Question is, do you pay the £120 and go super-size.

 

Make

Model

Engine

CO2

Mpg

£ per 12k

Fiat

Grande Punto

1242

133

47.9

1207

Renault

Clio

1149

139

47.9

1207

Vauxhall

Corsa

1229

139

48.7

1187

 

 

I can see why they say, don’t rank similar results. But what’s similar mean.

 

I can say there is a real difference in the manufacturers recommended retail price for cars in the same class.

 

Regards

Ralph

www.chevroletreviewsandprices.co.uk

August 9, 2008

The differences between a tiny city car and a large family car like a SUV

Filed under: Car Comparisons — ralphsreview @ 10:39 am

 

 

In my last post I made a comparison between the fuel costs of a Chevrolet Captiva and a Chevrolet Matiz over 12,000 based on their combined mpg as calculated by the VCA.

 

MAKE

MODEL

CC

CO2

MPG

£

Chevrolet

Captiva LS

1991

195

38.7

1593

Chevrolet

Matiz S 5dr

796

119

54.3

1065

 

And concluded if you want a SUV why not get one?

 

Colleagues pointed out to me it’s a 50% increase in fuel costs. They said you could buy 4 or 5 Matiz for the price of one Captiva LTX. They reminded me about the difference in Vehicle Excise Duty and insurance. Servicing even costs 50% more. You can buy 3 years 30,000 miles servicing on a Matiz for £199. It’s £299 for a Captiva.

 

I still think the comparison was worthwhile because:

  • Drivers with old fashioned SUVs built like trucks come into the showroom furious about their running costs and buy a Matiz. An emotional purchase. Funny thing is when I follow-up to see how they’re getting on – they’re delighted.
  • Motorists who run a small car and become grandparents can trade up to a modern crossover SUV – built like a car – and are happy to accept the cost.

 

So what are the differences between a tiny city car and a large family car like a crossover SUV? Here we compare a Chevrolet Matiz 0.8 S with a Chevrolet Captiva 2.0 LS.

 

n = standard

 

Date

JULY 2008

JULY 2008

Make

CHEVROLET

CHEVROLET

Model

MATIZ

CAPTIVA

Body

5-DOOR HATCH

5-SEAT SUV

Trim

S

LS

Engine

0.8

2.0 VCDi

Transmission/speeds

MANUAL/5SP

MANUAL /5SP

OTRRR price

£6,265

£18,295

Metallic paint

£325

£400

DRIVETRAIN

Front wheel drive

n

n

MEASURES AND WEIGHTS

Length (mm)

3495

4635

Width ex door mirrors (mm)

1495

1850

Height incl roof rails (mm)

1500

1755

Wheel base (mm)

2345

2705

Track width front/rear (mm)

1310/1275

1562/1572

Min. turning radius (m)

4.6

5.7

Load (l) all seats up

170

465

Load (l) 2nd row down

845

930

Load (l) all seats down

 

1565

Headroom front/rear (mm)

1004/959

1025/1020

Shoulder room fnt/rr (mm)

1250/1250

1455/1455

Legroom front/rear (mm)

1022/900

1035/940

Fuel tank (l)

35

65

CHASSIS AND BRAKES

Steering

Hydraulic PAS

Hydraulic PAS

Brakes front/rear

Solid disc/drum

Ventilated disc

Suspension front

 

McPherson strut

Suspension rear

 

Independent 4link

ENGINE AND TRANSMISSIONS

Engine type

SOHC 6 valve

Single Ohead Cam

Engine displacement

796

1991

Cylinders

3

4

Fuel injection type

Multi-point injection

Hi-pressure direct

Compression ratio

9.3

17.5

Power output (PS)

51

150

Max. Torque (Nm)

71.5 at 4400 rpm

320 at 2000 rpm

Transmission

Manual/5

Manual/5

Emission class

Euro IV

Euro IV

WEIGHTS

Kerb weight (kg)

775

1770

Gross weight (kg)

1250

2505

Trailer with brakes (kg)

 

2000

PERFORMANCE / FUEL CONSUMPTION & EMISSION FIGURES*

Top speed (mph)(5/7 seat)

90

111

Acceleration (0-62mph)

18.2

11.5

Fuel type

Petrol

Diesel

Urban (mpg(l/100km))

40.9 (6.9)

32.1 (8.8)

Extra urban(mpg(l/100km))

67.3 (4.2)

43.5 (6.5)

Combined  (mpg(l/100km))

54.3 (5.2)

38.7 (7.3)

CO2 emissions g/km

119

195

£ of 12,000 miles

1065

1593

Noise level dB(A) (moving)

71.4

73.7

SAFETY & SECURITY

ABS

n

n

Brake assist

 

n

Level ride suspension

X

n

Dual front airbags

n

n

Front curtain airbags

X

n

Front seatbelt pretensioners

n

n

Front seatbelt reminder

n

n

ISOFIX

n

n

Rear child locks

 

n

Remote central deadlocking

Manual central

n

Engine immobilser

n

n

Car alarm

x

n

CLIMATE & HEATING

Air conditioning

x

n

COMFORT AND EASE OF OPERATION

Power assisted steering

n

n

Tiltable steering column

X

n

Glass flip tailgate

X

n

Electric door mirrors

x

n

INTERIOR

Woven seat fabric

n

n

8way adjustable driver seat

x

n

60/40 split second row seat

n

n

Reclining second row seat

x

n

STORAGE

Load restraining net

X

n

F&R armrests storage

X

n

Luggage cover

X

n

5-storage luggage boxes

X

n

AUDIO/INFORMATION SYSTEM

RDS radio/CD/MP3 jack

No MP3

n

Steering wheel controls

X

n

Number of speakers

2

6

Aerial integrated in glass

X

n

EXTERIOR

16” alloy wheels

13” steel

n

Roof rails

X

n

Tinted glass

X

n

INSURANCE GROUP

1A

10E

 

*Fuel and CO2 data above copied from tables compiled by the VCA www.vca.gov.uk Also see www.dft.gov.uk/ActOnCO2/ . Every effort has been made to ensure accuracy. The VCA and I cannot accept liability for its accuracy. Users who rely entirely on the information do so at their own risk. Wheel size and the number of driven wheels will make a difference to the above figures.

 

Comments

To correct my colleagues, you can only buy 3 Matiz for the price of one Captiva, maybe 4.

 

DIMENSIONS

The Matiz is over a metre shorter than the Captiva and near a foot narrower. This means where parking is tight the Captiva may have to pass whilst the Matiz just nips in. The Captiva needs an added metre to turn a circle. The wheelbase and track suggest a difference in interior space.

 

Both cars have high rooflines, so are easy to enter and exit.

 

There is not a huge difference in interior space on paper. The 6 inches in interior width makes a huge difference in practice. The Matiz has amazing interior space for its overall size. Tha Captiva has luggage space in addition to seating. However the Matiz looks OK with the rear seat down.

 

ENGINE, TRANSMISSIONS & WEIGHTS

There’s and enormous difference in performance and muscle to carry weight. Having said that the Matiz is equally efficient for what it promises.

 

FUEL CONSUMPTION & EMISSION FIGURES

The Captiva costs about 50% more to fuel and emits 50% more CO2s which makes its vehicle excise duty 6 times the Matiz cost of £35 a year. Cars with CO2 emissions 186-225g/km are Band F and pay £210 for 12 months vehicle excise duty.

 

The VCA calculated the fuel cost of driving 12,000 miles using the combined fuel consumption figure and an average fuel price of 113p/litre for diesel, petrol 106p/litre. The fuel consumption and CO2 figures are for comparison and will not necessarily be those actually achieved on the road.

 

SAFETY, SECURITY, COMFORT & AUDIO

The Captiva has more of everything. But this does not make it a winner when it comes to ease of operation. The Matiz is easy to park and manoeuvre. It has good interior space without being bulky. Whilst it does not have the strong performance of the Captiva, the Matiz quickly jumps away from a standing start. Life is also easy when you don’t have to worry about fuel, vehicle excise duty and insurance costs.

 

A note on pedestrian safety. If a pedestrian were to be hit by a Matiz they would most likely be thrown over the car where a SUV will most likely knock them down and run over them. A point worth considering if most of your driving is in urban areas. The Captiva does give a more elevated view of the road which helps anticipation to avoid accidents.

 

As always, it depends which car suits your pocket and lifestyle.

 

Regards

Ralph

www.chevroletreviewsandprices.co.uk

 

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